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Laurel Lake Baptist Camp: Memories, Old and New

John Avera and John Hall Season 1 Episode 11

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John and John sit down with Chris Cox, (director of Laurel Lake Baptist Camp, and James Puckett a long time camper and counselor of the camp. We discuss memories made in the last 25 years at camp.

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SPEAKER_04

Today we're at Laurel Lake Baptist Camp.

SPEAKER_03

There you go.

SPEAKER_04

And we are recording live with kids running around the halls like a bunch of crazy people. Um, but today I've got I'll just let him introduce himself.

SPEAKER_02

Uh my name's Chris Cox. I'm the director here at the Laurel Lake Baptist Camp.

SPEAKER_03

So official.

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So official.

SPEAKER_00

I'm James Putkin, and I've just been coming here a really, really long time.

SPEAKER_04

So most of us have been coming here a really, really long time. John Hall's probably the newest of all of us. Um how many years have you been coming?

SPEAKER_03

Uh to council, this is second.

SPEAKER_04

Second year. This is about my 20th year leading worship down here. I'm catching up. Um it feels like it anyway. Chris probably come a couple years before I got here, I would think, wouldn't he? Uh no. This is my 18th year. Did you come when you were at Calvary at all? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I've been coming since 2003. Uh since then I've only not been here two years.

SPEAKER_03

Um those are the best.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, they've had record record attendance those years that I hear. COVID and then one other year that I was out of state for work, but so 20 22 of the last 24 years uh I've been coming to Canada.

SPEAKER_04

I was trying to think the other day, did they cancel during COVID?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. One year.

SPEAKER_03

One year during COVID.

SPEAKER_04

One year to it. Um so if you didn't notice the plastic bottles coming in there, I did pause the recording, but uh they were bringing in some water to put in the refrigerator. It was just really loud, so I paused it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're gonna hear slamming doors and kids screaming in this episode.

SPEAKER_04

Right, because that's all we've heard today is slamming doors and kids screaming.

SPEAKER_03

We have to hear it, so you do too.

SPEAKER_04

But tonight, this is uh night one of camp 2026. Unashamed is the theme. We had our worship. We've got a really large crowd this year. Did you say, Chris, it was 198 on the last count? It was 178 kids and 30 adults, so about 208. Well, when's the last time you heard? Because last I was told it was 198. Yeah, this was tonight. Okay, maybe some didn't show up. Um I think our church probably brought about 20, wouldn't you think, with all the little kids and the older kids? And then I'm pretty sure that it's kind of flipped because the church you all went to uh years ago with um Brother Greg as the pastor and the the leader of the camp, camp pastor, it used to be mostly New Salem people running the camp, like uh counselors and even people teaching classes, things like that. And now it's kind of flipped to where it's mostly heart people doing it all. And that I think that's really cool. It just shows you that you know, when somebody stays in for a while and they get fed and they they're a part of it, that eventually they'll become leaders and want to be a counsel as well, counselor as well in that. And it gives other people a chance to serve and do their part.

SPEAKER_00

See what it's all about.

SPEAKER_04

But we've uh been around for a long time and we've had plenty of uh different things that's happened here, and I was that's what I want to do, is just kind of share some stories. If y'all can think of any of camp. I don't know who wants to go first on this one.

SPEAKER_00

But I've been here long enough to see that you know, when I first started coming here pranking uh in between the cabins was a big, big part of coming to camp. Uh boys against the girls, the you know, the high schoolers were mostly the ones uh I remember my my last year as a camper, we had uh we had a guy that uh came the day before camp started and under our cabin uh had brought like three pieces of fish and saran wrap and honey and water balloons and silly shrink, and he was gonna wage a one-man war just against everybody. And the first night in we we pranked the girls' cabin and they did not take it very well. Uh and they got us in trouble, and so our counselor at the time, he was like, he got us all in the cabin, was like, listen, I know you guys were expecting to be able to do this all week, but we gotta put a stop to it. He was like, I'm gonna walk out into the other room. If you've got any material to prank people with, you can put it in the center of the floor and give you guys 15 minutes, and then you know, no one's gonna get in trouble. No one's gotta tell me what's theirs. And it took 15 minutes for that guy to walk outside and bring every one of his supplies in. Um, you know, like I said, three pieces of fish, just he was gonna be diabolical with it. And nowadays, like, you know, they really don't do anything. Like that whole mindset of like, oh, pranking, scaring, really not a thing that uh happens anymore.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They just, I don't know, I guess that's not something they really really crosses their mind or something they see people doing anymore, you know. That's one thing we are we we lived for when I was first down here.

SPEAKER_03

They grew up with screens.

SPEAKER_04

I tell you, yeah, what I was gonna say is it takes too much effort to prank somebody. Too much planning, too much effort.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And this this day and age, kids just don't put forth any effort.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even know that they have the mindset to do it. One of my favorite memories was we got the uh camp staff on the very last night. Uh they were planning on pranking us by coming into our cabin at 5 o'clock in the morning on Friday morning and banging pots and pans to wake us up. And our counselor, same counselor who had taken my other person's ammo at the beginning of the week, was supposed to be in on it. And I don't know if he just had a change of heart, if he decided, well, since they're not allowed to do anything else, I'll, you know, he kind of did a double cross, let us in on it. So we had all filled up uh buckets of water before we all went to bed, hit them under our box and around the room. And like he got us, he woke us up about 4.45. You know, we got our stuff ready, and we were just laying there, and you know, kinda in the darkness, you could see them come in, and right as they got ready to, you know, start hooping and hauling and banging their pots and pans, he flipped the light on and we just we drenched them. I mean, it was it was like they just walked out of the ocean.

SPEAKER_04

So you were ready for it?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, we were absolutely ready for it. And uh we didn't eat that day. Back then, uh, before he left camp, he got breakfast and lunch. We were so afraid of them putting stuff in our food that we didn't eat, like I didn't eat to our home. The camp staff and the counselors, they were they were also another breed. They were ruthless back in the day. A lot of ultimate frisbee that led to injuries and probably concussions that were not diagnosed.

SPEAKER_03

You didn't come to camp and not get stitches. I mean, you didn't.

SPEAKER_04

It was part of the experience. Part of the experience. John, you don't have any good memories yet, do you?

SPEAKER_03

I don't. Well, I mean, yeah, but I don't want to.

SPEAKER_04

You want to tell the one about the squeaky?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, the squeaky McSqueakers. I'll let you know. I'll say okay.

SPEAKER_04

I'll tell it. Last year uh we had another counselor. Um he's more of an older camper, I guess, than a counselor, but he he's still coming, he's still faithful to come and try to help out and things. Last year he's got this really deep voice, and he came downstairs to me and John, and he said, Do you all have a pistol?

SPEAKER_03

I need a gun.

SPEAKER_04

And I was like, What in the world?

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm. I wanted to give him one because I thought it would be hilarious.

SPEAKER_04

What do you need a gun for? And he said, Well, we got us a squeaky McSqueakster upstairs. And I thought, I can just see him blasting holes in the floor down at us with us downstairs, all of us laying there dead. It's still missing. That's yeah, that's that's one of my recent favorite memories, but I've got other things too, just from way back. There's counselors that I'd really like to know where they are and what they're doing. That like the one that they call Dreamy McDrewberry.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Dreamy Drewberry.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Dreamy Drewberry, that's right. Um, I've always wondered whatever happened to him. Last I saw him, he went on that mission trip with us. And uh, you know, he was at camp every year for so long, and then boom, he was not here anymore. So I'm not sure what happened there. And another one is Colin Arnold, who originally, you know, played in the band with me. He was my probably my first, I think it was bass player at first, and then he switched to guitar and was the guitar player for a long time. But um, I made up a song called Where's Callin'? Where is Callin'? And so it starts out Classic tune. It's got this real like Pentecostal sound, you know, on the piano and everything. And uh it's like we're gonna play a game. Where's Colin? Well, I thought it would be hilarious to do that at our worship service one night, right before it started, because he wasn't on stage yet. He was nowhere to be found. So I started playing it. I sung it. And we sung it for a little while, and he comes running down the stairs. It's when we were in the basement of this building for worship. Uh, he came running down the stairs and ran up on the stage. And then afterwards I was like, Where in the world were you? He was in the bathroom. He said, I was sitting there and I heard that song start, and he said my heart fell to the floor. And I'm so sorry. I just thought you were gone like you normally are, you know? But he came running down there, he was embarrassed to death. Nobody else knew, but still it was hilarious. Turns out he just had IBS.

SPEAKER_03

John's making fun of him.

SPEAKER_02

Oh gosh. What about you, Chris? You have any? Yeah, I'd say um, I guess the last year the old man house was there. Counselors got up in the uh in the top, raised the windows, we bombed the uh all the students with uh water balloons, squirt guns, squirt guns, you know, that was um that was good times. Now, of course, the man old man house isn't there anymore, but um and then there's a a guy, probably the same one John was talking about about the squeaky squeaky, yeah. Uh he came up to me, I think it was last year, and he's like, if I don't find my pliers, whoever stole them dinner at the pond, he said, I'm gonna whoop somebody. And he was, I'm telling you, man, he was fit to be tied. Um, I don't think we ever found his pliers, but we bought him a new pair. Um, so you know, many memories of camp.

SPEAKER_04

And you know, a lot of those pranks that you were talking about has happened to him. Now that we're saying was that last year when it was. Two years ago, or maybe it might have been last year, they put a burrito in his bed or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

She was not happy about the burrito in the bed. He's already mentioned that four times today.

SPEAKER_03

I I think he's came in and counted his mountain bill about 30 times a day as well.

SPEAKER_00

He's he's he told me several times today that uh somebody's gonna be fit to be touched. Am I drinking one currently? Yes. Does he know that? No. No. Um between breakfast and lunch, he probably told me five times I brought an extra blanket just in case they want to put burritos in my bed. I'm like, well, I guess, you know, you gotta have an extra blanket for that, Jacob. You gotta have an extra blanket for it.

SPEAKER_01

He said, he he came up to me today and he's like, hey buddy, there's uh a kid selling candy. He said, uh, he shouldn't be doing it at camp. And I'm like, What do you mean selling candy? He said, man, he's making all kinds of money off his candy that he brought.

SPEAKER_03

The sad thing is, it's one of the little kids. Because I found out about it. Oh, they're selling the candy. But also, yeah, but also, he told them kids they had to quit or he was gonna tell them. So he he snitched anyway. Oh yeah, he told us.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he came up to me and like, we might quit this selling candy. Well, and like earlier today, when the one girl came to us and said somebody went in the woods, yeah, and I went out to look and see who it was. It was actually somebody that works here. And she tried to tell them she's young. Okay, but she tried to tell them I work here, and they uh told on her anyway.

SPEAKER_03

Them staff shirts are confusing, and she came out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, big four-inch letters on it like I said staff.

SPEAKER_04

But I don't think she had one on, to be honest with you. Okay. Um, but she came out of the woods and they were like, there she is, and she was like, I was just sightseeing. And I'm like, that's fine, it's alright. And that's when I come back and told you everything was good. I thought it was funny. They were already wondering if somebody was sneaking off into the woods.

SPEAKER_03

There was the hiking story where Gary almost killed me. Yeah. I went on a hike last year. We went down around in the toilet. So there's a set of boulders you gotta kinda go over. I don't know if you guys have ever sitting ahead and walked with Gary or anything. I walked with Gary several times. If you are on a laptop or a track concrete with Gary, you can't keep up with it. I he's what, 62, something like that? I can't keep up with it. Like I'll do three miles and he's like, I'm still gonna get through three more, I'll see you. He's gone. You can't keep up with it. On the flip side of that, he's very clumsy. So we're going up these boulders, and Gary gets in front of me, and it was me in the back, and I just, you know, after my surgery in that, I don't remember that other guy's name, but he was behind me, the guy that has the hiding pants. Gary's up over this boulder, and I look up, and I start over the boulder, and I hear Gary go, uh oh. And he just fell straight backwards off of that, and I called him mid-air. Like, I'm holding Gary up in the air. I might have had a hand on his butt. I don't know, you know. It is what it is. But uh, and I was going down, that dude hadn't been behind me, we'd never got him back up. So I tell everybody I saved Gary's life again. He's straight up with a bust. You may have.

SPEAKER_04

I think he's actually said you saved his life.

SPEAKER_03

He would have got hurt if he'd come out on the boaters, I'm telling you. It was a hairy spot.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, this year I planned on going on those hikes, but uh we missed one today, man. This uh thing where the first group that come out to camp chose the following week or the next week to start threw everybody off a week. So we're actually here a week later than we normally are. And it put me on to where I have to work three days. So I've got to go to school tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday all day long. So I didn't get to stay the night this year, but um that's alright. I've stayed all night the last few years. Uh I do enjoy staying, it's it's a really good time and coming down here and hanging out with the kids and stuff like that. Feeding the mice, beef jerky. Feeding the mice. That's that's the story from last year. We had mice too downstairs over there. Because you all were still working on that, weren't you, Chris? That it hadn't even been uh finished, so like there was no trim on the floor. Doors. Uh there was a lot of like building supplies and things in the room next to it, and it was just a mess. But we were still down there and there was some mice coming in at night, and you could hear them rumbling around through the stuff. And I went in there one, it was after like uh one of the Bible lessons or whatever, and you know, no kids are down there, so I went down there to do something. I probably put my Bible up or make the slides for the worship service or something. I went down there and I kept hearing this sound. You gotta have the sound effect. I was like, what the heck? And I looked down and I see this beef jerky bag under John's bed moving around. And I looked down, and that mouse was he had left his bag, it was unzipped a little bit. The zipper ripped out of the bag. That mouse was in that bag getting that beef jerky and running out and carrying it out of the room. And that was a good beef jerky too. Like he got some.

SPEAKER_03

That's a good one. It was an old trapper.

SPEAKER_04

I ended up getting some uh sticky traps though. We caught two of them last year.

SPEAKER_00

That was downstairs again.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that was here downstairs.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's one of the other things. It's just been amazing to see how campus changed since I've started. Like this year with the old manna house and the old mission house not being here, like seeing those changed since last year. Those were those were staples. Like, I remember I was talking about this today with some of the other other counselors, like all the kids' classes today are like in the same building and then like a 20-foot walk. I remember when you had to walk from one end of camp to the other three or four times to get to all the classes, and you're hot and sweaty and tired. They have it so good these days. We just we can't we cater to them, we placate. With the indoor air conditioner, the air conditioner.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not even too sure which one the mission house actually was.

SPEAKER_00

It was the one yeah, well, the really old chapel.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um, because we used to do missions and crafts in there.

SPEAKER_04

Dolder Frisbee field, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That had no air, uh, no circulation, and the rooms were tiny, and you'd stack 60 of us in there to do missions and crafts, and that was just part of the experience.

SPEAKER_03

And 30 of them forgot their deodorant.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, 40 of them. 40 to 50 of them forgot deodors.

SPEAKER_04

And I find it funny you called it the ultimate frisbee field, and now you say that and they're like, what's that?

SPEAKER_00

Another thing that doesn't happen anymore, that used to be like near the, you know, on a Thursday afternoon wreck, like no one would do anything. Come watch the older kids battle the camp staff in Ultimate Frisbee. Like that was the thing. And, you know, although, like you said, like staff counselors that like used to be a part of that, you know, no longer really have not talked to a lot of them or heard from a lot of them in twelve, fifteen years, it seems like. And that's just like you said, you know, ultimate frisbee. What is ultimate frisbee?

SPEAKER_03

Last year we did the basketball game with them, and that was awful. I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_04

Was it me and you on a team? Me, you and Gary. Me, you and Gary.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. Oh, we all did the three-on-three basketball tournament.

SPEAKER_04

We did the three-on-three basketball tournaments. Yeah, I don't know who signed us up, but it was Max and them that was running it. And they signed us up to play them in the first game.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was fair. Did we even I don't even think we scored in that game? We did stick them with like the third and fourth graders. That was fair to place. That was fair to play. No, we never scored it. We almost scored once. We almost scored one. We almost scored that hard at the time.

SPEAKER_04

And it's not that we didn't get to shoot. Yeah, we shot. We shot a lot. They just were not going in.

SPEAKER_03

We didn't rebound anything, I'll tell you that right now. I'm pretty sure the rim was man. It was like one of those circus carnivals. Something was going on. Had to be.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And as a lot of stuff has shifted like the pickleball now, like I like pickleball though.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I remember when I first came here, we said the old manor house, which is now Torn, that's where we ate. And uh had a live well in it. Yeah, there was a basement in that.

SPEAKER_00

Water well, not fish well.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Just so people know.

SPEAKER_04

There was a basement in that that no one ever went down because you never knew what was down there.

SPEAKER_00

And then there was a basement under that basement. I was just telling kids about that today. A lot of people don't know the lore about this like camp, like the second basement under the old mana house, uh, and the old pretty much the you know, old mission house, none of the corners were 90 degrees. Um because before this was a camp, it was an orphanage. Uh the guy who ran the orphanage was a very, very evil man. He was also crazy. And he believed that evil and demons lived in 90 degree angles. So if you looked at any of the corners at the old mission house, none of them were 90 degrees. And he had a second basement under the like basement that you could walk in to in the old manna house. Like, up until I don't know, maybe five or six years ago, you could still, like, you had to do some crawling. You could still get down in there. I mean, a lot of it had filled in, like, you know, stuff had felt fallen into it.

SPEAKER_04

Um there's actually a book out.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yes, there's it.

SPEAKER_04

And I've read it, and I own it. I have no idea where it's at though. I think I let you borrow it at some point, didn't you? Didn't you read it? I've not read it. Might have been Greg. Greg borrowed it. Um, and I read that with so much passion, waiting to see some kind of some of that folklore to come out and say, hey, yeah, this really happened. Not one time. There was a couple things, you know, um without getting too graphic, you know, it talked about some of the sexual stuff from the orphans with businessmen around. You know, but it didn't really get into a lot of the stuff that I was expecting to see or read.

SPEAKER_00

The tunnels there.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I was I was really expecting to read some good juicy stuff, you know. Um I mean there were things about like the orphans here, sneak the teenagers sneaking off and doing things they shouldn't be doing, you know. But other than that, it didn't get real juicy, but it was a still it was a good book because you know I was interested in it and I wanted to know about the camp. Uh the the history of the camp. But it's not like that now, by the way. So uh if you're thinking about sending your kid to camp, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Please send to them. Please send them.

SPEAKER_04

Please send them. And uh just speaking of the camp, and I thought tonight's worship service was really good. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, it's been a long time since I've been on any kind of stage, but I was ready to get on stage tonight myself.

SPEAKER_04

Honestly, I feel like I might have overdone it. No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_00

You didn't. Knees, sneeze and back hurting a little bit after the nice performance.

SPEAKER_04

Um but I mean I enjoyed it and I was a great service. I was feeling it, and uh, you know, the I think what got me going was the kids were singing it. But I want I shared this with Chris earlier. I've been dreading coming down here this year. It's been the at the bottom of my list of things to do, and that's only happened about three times out of the 20 years. But every time that happens, it's always one of the best weeks.

SPEAKER_03

Cam had asked me something, and I said, look, once worship starts, some kind of ask me nothing, because I'm gonna be able to cry. It happens every year. I'm gonna be crying like a baby, watching these kids praise and worship, and like I just lose it. Yeah. And I did again.

SPEAKER_00

Like from the first note of the first song.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like it kind of surprised me a little bit because usually it takes them a day or two to get into really participating in worship, but they were zero to a hundred soon as we started tonight.

SPEAKER_04

Instant, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It was it was an awesome scene.

SPEAKER_04

And I, you know, that blew my mind. You were there in those classes today, you saw some of them, you saw some of them. I was sitting there teaching music and teaching some of those songs, and those kids could have cared less.

SPEAKER_03

I think that was just bad timing, honestly, because it was kind of a half day today. You know what I mean? By the time everybody came in, hey, they were tired, everybody got up early. They've got second wind, it's you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04

But once they got in there, and who I was mostly surprised with was whoever that was in the front. I guess third and fourth boys.

SPEAKER_05

Third and fourth grade boys, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

My gosh, they sung out loud. They did.

SPEAKER_03

New songs, even.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the newer stuff too. Yeah, new songs.

SPEAKER_00

And usually they're the group that falls asleep, falls asleep, they don't want to pay attention, wants to sit down. I guess it's because I'm not their counselor this year. Last few years I've been third and fourth grade boys. I stop and they're like, oh, let's participate. Let's praise the Lord.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes.

SPEAKER_00

Whatever I gotta do. Whatever I gotta do. I'll do it.

SPEAKER_04

Well, does anybody else have any uh goods good stories or even uh bad stories, I guess?

SPEAKER_03

Even a bad story will fly no matter.

SPEAKER_00

I guess I could tell on myself back in my early days. Um after after as a camper, my first three or four years as a counselor, I was high school boys. And I was really close with a lot of them because I had just been graduated a year or two from from a lot of them. And uh, you know, we don't do them anymore, but the talent shows that we used to do on Thursday nights were that in just a minute. Big, big thing. You know, you worked on them all week, and uh, you know, you tried to, you know, you're you tried to outdo everybody else, you know, as high school boys, you tried to outdo the high school girls.

SPEAKER_04

And there was a lot of thought that went into that.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, we I mean we put a lot of effort, like a lot of rec time was spent not doing recreation, like what if we didn't have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04

They didn't want to do recreation, they wanted to come up with the best.

SPEAKER_00

Well, what do we do with this? Like, what if we did this? How can we incorporate this? What what jokes from camp can we use? And uh that first year, one of the camp staff that year was a male cheerleader from Louisiana. He was a cheerleader at some college down in Louisiana, like nothing, no big time, but butt dogs. Yeah, yeah, but raging pages or something like that. But he taught us how to stunt and build and do pyramids. And we're like, well, we're gonna do that and blow everybody's socks off. And we probably took it a little too far because like we also like wore some glitter makeup, maybe back in the 80s, maybe did some like eye makeup, maybe some painted fingernails happened. But uh we came out and did, he like, of course, like from practice routines and stuff, he had a you know, music track that he played for us, and we came out and did our tumbling and our pyramid and our stunts and stuff. And the very next year I remember we did our camp counselor meeting, and there was a rule, a brand new rule, applied to the camp handbook about boys wearing appropriate clothing and no makeup during uh skits or talent shows. And we're like, well, I don't know who that's directed at, but okay. So uh there was a song that we used to sing uh that that ended with, ooh, slap it, or sock it to the devil.

SPEAKER_04

I do remember that. I don't remember the song though. Do you uh Connie used to sing it?

SPEAKER_00

I can't remember, I honestly can't remember how it goes.

SPEAKER_04

Well we can go get Connie right now and have her come in here and sing it.

SPEAKER_00

But we decided we decided to build our skit for our talent show around that. And we were gonna have Jesus and the devil in a boxing match. Like, we worked on it all week, like had our devil, had our Jesus, like everybody had their parts. We thought it would be funny to have one of the boys be a ring girl. So he remember the Trevor Allen. Um sorry, Trevor and Whitney, if you end up hearing this. Um, Trevor and his now wife Whitney, they were dating at the time and they both came to camp. Um, he went and borrowed a small pair of shorts and a training or a training bra or something from her. We got some balloons and blew them up a little bit. And he was the ring girl for our skit. Again, blew it out of the water. Overall champions, we were just the best at it. Like, you couldn't beat us. Uh following year, come down for the camp counselor meeting. Brand new rules.

SPEAKER_03

Seeing a pattern here in the handler.

SPEAKER_00

This happened for several years, about four after my my year as a camper. Um, we just seemed to find to do something to where the camp committee would be like, well, we have to stop this. Like, they they can't keep circummitting the rules. But there was a rule in that about, again, like appropriately dressed people for talent shows and men not being boys not being girls, and vice versa. They tried to make it sound like it wasn't aimed at us, but when you looked at it, you're like, that's weird, that's never been in the handbook before. I wonder who that's towards. Um, till till all those guys like finally graduated and kind of moved on. There for about four years in a row, we found a way to get some new rule added to the the camp handbook. It's been a while since that's happened.

SPEAKER_02

I mean I think one of the best ones was Thursday bar. Wasn't that one?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Wasn't that the same year about the uh uh wasn't that the same year about the dress being dressed appropriately that um that church service that uh that uh somebody stood up and was like, Yeah, yeah, it was the same year.

SPEAKER_04

I think we need to have our girls wearing dresses or long pants. Yeah, as I said, or something like that. Shorts was too short. Yeah. And every year, up until a certain time, the same guy asked me to sing hymns. Every year, we should probably sing some hymns instead of those new songs. I'm like, man, you don't know what kids like. But you know, I understand where he was coming from. That's just how he grew up. That's how I grew up, Chris, to be honest with you. I did too. But it's funny because I had never really sung a contemporary song until I started at Heart Badness. Actually, it was at Calvary right before that. But I was just asked to start doing some contemporary stuff, so I did. And that's just how it all began. It's funny how things just fell into place when it came time to start playing down here and needing a worship band and stuff like that. Because I'll just tell that story real fast here. I was uh hired at Heart Baptist, and they had two services at the time a contemporary service and a traditional. Traditional I'm fine with, I've done that forever. But straight contemporary, I've not done so much. And they're like, Yeah, we'd like to get have you to get to a worship band together, too. Well, I'm not even from London, really, and so I didn't really know anybody. But it just so happened my best friend from childhood is also a worship pastor, and he was at Calvary Baptist, I think, in Somerset at this time. And he asked me to come sing at a revival. And so I went over there to sing for him and everything, and he said, I want you to meet my brother-in-law here. And I was like, Okay. And uh his brother-in-law was uh Josh Hammonds, and he said, Josh plays all kinds of instruments, guitar, drums, all kinds of stuff. And I said, Well, I'm actually looking to start a worship band. And he's like, Oh, alright. And I said, you know, it's a nine o'clock service, so you can do it and then go to your own church, whatever you want to do. And uh he said, Well, this is my friend Colin, Colin Arnold, he plays guitar and bass as well. And I said, Well, why don't we try to get together and you know make some music? Well, then they were like, and I won't mention last names or nothing, but they were like, Well, we have a friend named Ryan too that plays the drums. And so the original band was me on keys and singing. Josh played the guitar, Colin played the bass, and Ryan played the drums. And that's how we began over at Heart Baptist doing our worship band. Well, it wasn't long after that. Ryan left to go somewhere else. And Josh said, Well, I guess I'll start playing the drums, and we'll move uh Colin to guitar. And I was like, Okay, that's fine, and I can cover bass with my keyboard. Well, then John Brumman ended up getting hurt through the military. And he was sitting around the house doing nothing. So he decided he'd play the bass. So he picked up his bass, I guess YouTube or something, I don't know, but he learned to play the bass and joined along with us. And then that was the band for the longest time. We were we were called Circle Seven back then.

SPEAKER_00

Circle Seven.

SPEAKER_04

And that was back in the day whenever you actually got called to go somewhere and play at a lock-in or at a festival. You know, we opened up for Matthew West over at Somerset. You know, that's a pretty big thing, pretty big deal. Yeah. And it's funny too because we have a guy at our church now, he's a Gideon, but he's at our, he goes to our church and everything, and I was talking to him about how I used to go to different places to play, and he said, Well, I did that too. And I said, Well, who'd you play with? DeLorean Gray. I'm like, we've played at the same show at least 15 times.

SPEAKER_00

It's not a that's a that's a hard pull. I've not heard DeLorean Gray in a long time.

SPEAKER_04

I know. And uh I said, we used to play with you all, and we used to play with a band called Live Fish. And he's like, Yeah, I've played with them too, out of East Somerset Baptist. And I was like, Yeah, we've all played the same shows, we've been to the same places, and I thought, man, what a small world. Just me and a guy talking about playing, and we ended up playing at the same places and everything. That's generally how our whole band began, and now of course it's totally different. Just me and John Brummet are the same, and everybody else is different. But uh I'll just go ahead and tell you, my daughter-in-law Shelby plays the drums, and her dad plays rhythm guitar, and then I've got Rick Muncie that plays the uh lead guitar, and uh John Brummet still plays the bass, even though my son late in the fielding tonight. But uh, and then uh I've had multiple people singing like harmony with me. Um but right now it's Jason's daughter and Shelby's sister singing, uh Jesse singing with me. I like to call her Jessica, it makes her so mad. So I wanted to throw that in here. I just roadie. Yeah, we made John the official roadie. He was actually hooking some stuff up and stuff for us yesterday. I felt so good.

SPEAKER_00

Don't worry, in years past I've been tricked into helping them do that stuff too. It's okay.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04

Every year we do a breakdown and we have those kids carry stuff out, and that is such a help. They don't realize how big of a help that is.

SPEAKER_03

Jason tries to make me trade out. He's like, no, you come play on stage for Wild City, you got some stigma.

SPEAKER_04

It's funny because I told Jason, I told Chris this earlier, but I told Jason earlier this week, I said, you know, this may be my last year doing this. And I said, but I planned on turning it over to Jesse and letting her do it. So that means you got another 15 years. I heard the conversation. He was like, don't do it that way. He said, No, I don't. He wanted no part of that. He said he would do anything for her, but I don't know that he would do that for her. He said, I don't know if I could play with her or not. Yeah. But that's that's the story of how the band began. Um do you have, Chris? I just wanted to ask you if you could remember, you might have to take a minute and think. I don't know, but anyway. He's not stories from any of these other weeks where that we're not here. You know, things have to happen in other camps that happens in ours, and you have to hear about it, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I do. Um so a few weeks ago there was some high school boys that decided that their counselor had this nice new uh mattress on top, this big foam mattress on top of his bed, and they decided that it was a smart idea to go dump a bunch of water and a bunch of stuff in his bed, and it it ruined his um his Newton bed topper.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, those things aren't cheap. Those things aren't cheap. That's just a big sponge. Yeah, it's all.

SPEAKER_02

And let me tell you, um, those boys got in a little bit of trouble. Uh but uh honestly, we have we've had girl, we've had honestly girls that have walked out of cabins um just midnight stroll and then somebody wakes up and they're gone.

SPEAKER_04

Uh is this like they're awake and sneaking off or like sleepwalking?

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, no, no, no. They're awake, they're they know exactly what they're doing.

SPEAKER_03

They're being teenagers.

SPEAKER_02

They're being teenagers. Teenagers are teenagers, you know. Um, a few years back I hear that there was uh uh M80 through the toilet and it blew the toilet up. So they changed the toilet out real quick so nobody knew.

SPEAKER_04

Well, our campers blew the toilet up last year, I can tell you that right now. Different time every night.

SPEAKER_02

Well, there's listen, and if this girl listens to this, she's gonna know who it is. But I had some, I had a couple girls in my youth group when I was at uh the church before I came down here to be the director, and every year they call me and they're like, we need the toilet plunge. And it's every year the same two girls. So I I get they get me this morning, they're like, We thought we were gonna have to call you late last night because the toilet wouldn't flush. Same girls. I mean, listen, they hadn't been here two hours. Uh so girls do it too.

SPEAKER_04

Is it on the left side of the girls' dorm where it leaked that one year into the sanctuary? And by the way, the sanctuary used to be in the basement. Basement logic.

SPEAKER_02

So that happened. Uh funny story, that happened the first day that I was here. Yeah, that was where recent. That was recent. Um, I get a phone call January the 2nd last year. Uh first day on the job. And there's like, hey, our ceiling tiles and um all that stuff's in the floor.

SPEAKER_03

They're now floor tiles.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they're now floor tiles. Uh there's about an inch of water in three rooms, you know. Good way to start a job. But um but uh after that, we kind of done a few upgrades, but listen, there's still uh a lot of that stuff happening.

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SPEAKER_02

She'd actually told me, she said, Well, we just couldn't get the flush, so we let it was running. She said, So we just let it run all night so we didn't bother you. And I said, Do you understand what you just did? She said, What's that? I said, The water bill's gonna go up. She said, It can't go up that much. So, you know, some things they should tell you, and some things I guess it's worse than just bothering me.

SPEAKER_04

Worse than just the water bill. Yeah, they're making fun of me because every year, I swear, every year of my 20 years, I've been asked, who do we make the check to? And I've always said, LRBA, Laurel River Baptist Association. I've always said that. Because for some reason, I swear I was told that at some point. And for some reason, I thought that's how you made the check to. I thought you made it to the association, and then they wrote a check to pay for the week of camp. I thought they were like renting the camp out, and we were paying the association for camp. But apparently you're supposed to actually write it to Laura Lake Baptist camp.

SPEAKER_02

And you know, the funny thing is, John's the only one that does that. So he missed the memo.

SPEAKER_04

I did not realize that until today. This was my second year of doing registration because I'm on the camp council now. So we were sitting there and I was going through the checks, and somebody said, uh, well, here's one made uh LRBA, they'll have to send it over to the association and have them write a check. And I was like, What are you talking about? And uh she said, Look, and it was, of course, it was one of mine. And I said, Well, go through there and see how many of them are written that way. Well, she did, and guess what? Every single one of them were mine, and I had five checks written to LRBA. So uh I just told him, I said, Listen, I'm gonna go, I shouldn't probably say this, but I said, I'm just gonna go through here and I'm gonna change them to L L B C. I'm just gonna write it right next to L R B A. So it'll say L R B A L L B C. I don't think it works like that.

SPEAKER_03

It's wonderful.

SPEAKER_04

Because I use the right color pen. I use the right color pen. I'm an art teacher, so I wrote it exactly like they're handwriting. You're also a forgery y'all just did. Well, you know what? As long as the check gets into the right place, I think we'll be alright. As long as the bank will take it. Exactly. And speaking of checks, I'm just gonna throw this out there. A little uh sponsor the podcast. Shame this plug. I have, you know how many times I've said that on here, and we have nothing, no sponsors, no money coming in. But I would like to say, if Chris has this address and you're wanting to maybe donate to the camp, that would be awesome too. Do you have an address for this?

SPEAKER_02

We do. It's 578 Singing Hills Road, Corbin, Kentucky, 40701.

SPEAKER_04

All right. So if you're wanting to make a donation to the camp, just send your check to that address and it'll be put to a good use. I think we're looking to maybe build a gym pretty soon.

SPEAKER_02

That's a vision to build an indoor wreck building for our summer, well, actually all year round camp kids. Uh, when it rains, if you know kids and it rains and they got to stay inside, um, they have no way to get energy out. So we are we're looking to build a indoor wreck building with some basketball goals.

SPEAKER_04

And we're tell the truth, we're looking for a place to be able to play counselor versus student dodgeball.

SPEAKER_03

Indoor. And that would work too. So I instantly my mind went to Family Life Center and I thought about our little building. Yeah, that was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_04

A little fishing building or whatever. It was a tiny home somebody dumped on us uh during the tornado relief.

SPEAKER_03

It was about the size of that fridge. But it you know what? When you went in, it was a few. And so John and I, we just kind of named it the family life center. We call it that.

SPEAKER_04

It was like, well, they finally put us a family life sitter out here at the church.

SPEAKER_03

We actually all of us piled into it one night and took a picture, like the whole youth group, we all got into it.

SPEAKER_04

But uh, any other stories to share?

SPEAKER_00

It's just interesting to see you talked about how the sanctuary used to be in the bottom of what's now the girls' dormitory. Yeah. I remember having service in the basement of the building we're in now, which is the boys' dormitory.

SPEAKER_04

That went from girls to there.

SPEAKER_00

We used to have service in our now screenless house, which used to be the screen house up on the hill. Uh also no air conditioning, no air circulation. Uh we've really we we've come up. We really have. The camp has come up. I I remember a lot of miserable, sweaty hem filled, and don't get me wrong, I love hymns, uh, hem filled worship services cramped into very tight places. So it's just it's it's amazing where we're at now, what we get to use for worship now. Uh and it's just part of growth. You know, it's part of seeing the camp grow and expand and God use it. Um, you know, those, like I said, those old days of being cramped up in a 10 by 10 room with a hundred people.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I'll tell you what surprised me this year was the amount of students that we had. It being a week off. School starts next week.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So this is their last week at home.

SPEAKER_03

And this is the week a lot of parents do the vacation before school starts.

SPEAKER_04

And I thought there would be no one at camp this year. But whether it's 178 or 198, it doesn't matter. That's still a lot of kids. A lot of kids.

SPEAKER_03

Parents probably still went on vacation.

SPEAKER_02

How many did you say you had last week, Chris? I had 200 and no, last week was 105. The week before that was about 252. So we've had um what is that big group? Is that Somerset? Lake Combo. Lake Commonwealth. Yeah. Over in Pulaski County. Uh they're normally the biggest week we have.

SPEAKER_04

Uh I've actually come on their week before. Uh a few years back, we were just coming to see how the sound system was hooked up and what I was here, what we needed to bring. And uh me and uh Josh rode out here and went to their week. It was really good too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. We have some good weeks. We uh we saw with this week whether there's 215 or 200 and whatever, we'll be over 1300 kids for the summer. So we got another week. We have seen 64 salvation.

SPEAKER_04

There's another one coming after us, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Emanual comes on Sunday, and then they leave on Wednesday, and they're gonna have about 250.

SPEAKER_04

So pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but we have the best version, right?

SPEAKER_04

Hey, we did improve the camp. We hung a screen. We did improve the camp.

SPEAKER_01

You did you all did, yes, actually?

SPEAKER_04

We hung a pull-down screen. Functionality and looks. That was needed. When you think about it, we're not the only ones gonna be using that. That was actually needed.

SPEAKER_00

Like the guy speaking for missions said today, you gotta start in Jerusalem. Gotta start near Jerusalem. Cam's our Jerusalem. We went ahead and we did our missions for today.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I wanted to go back to uh the talent show just a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Um I instantly thought Sparky Lasseter and Spirit Fingers when he was talking about cheer and bringing them in. That's kind of how that was. That's what instantly popped in my head.

SPEAKER_04

A couple of them that three or four actually that stick out to me. One is way back, and that was that Dodd boy. I don't remember his first name, but his twin sister goes to church with us, and her daughter's actually here this year.

SPEAKER_00

Really? Maybe Derek. Is it Derek or is it Derek or Devin?

SPEAKER_04

The younger one.

SPEAKER_00

Devin. The young one's Devin.

SPEAKER_04

He used to put this box out, remember? Called the Sin Box.

SPEAKER_00

The Sin Box.

SPEAKER_04

And he'd come out and he would act that up, and he'd step in that box. He's like, oh, it smells like fried chicken. And he'd rub that fried chicken smell all over him, you know. And it the whole thing was, you know, he's in the sin box and he's really getting into it and everything. And I don't even remember what happens after that. I just remember the fried chicken part. But, you know, that one used to crack me up every year because he got into it so much. And another one, of course, was the one we talked about earlier a little bit. There's a barr. And that was me, and I don't even remember who was with me that year. But I don't even wear it. Over the yeah, I don't remember where I saw this, but I yelled, there's a barr. And all the kids go, and then I point and go, over there. Well, uh, you do that over and over and over with each kid. Each kid does it. Well, the second time you go through, you take a knee, there's a bar over there, and you're taking a knee and you hold it pointing in the direction of the bear. And at the end, everybody's on one knee. They're in a big line standing next to each other, and the counselor, which was me actually, pushes that first kid, and every one of them falls over like dominoes. Well, we had all that, but we actually had that big bearded guy, I don't remember who that was, that ran from the back, and he was the bear, remember? Gosh, who was that? I don't even know. That's been so many years ago. That's been his whole while. It's been like 15 years ago. But he came running out and scaring everybody, but they were scared from him, but they were laughing so hard about them kids falling over on stage.

SPEAKER_03

We did have one from last year. Vapes were a big conversation last year. Yeah. And then we got one that doesn't exactly talk plain. But he said, I rape.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he can't say vape.

SPEAKER_04

He couldn't say the V.

SPEAKER_07

He said it with an R.

SPEAKER_04

I've been raping since I was 15. We just look at each other like uh don't you even say that.

SPEAKER_03

He said, I gotta rape at home.

SPEAKER_02

Um what was uh um Caleb Kirby's that's one of the other Brother Reverend Cleveland Villeroy. Yes, listen, that was some good skills.

SPEAKER_04

That was that was like five years in a row of just awesomeness. But that first year, do you remember it when he came out as the Reverend Philroy and he started doing that old uh grunting rip, snort, and preaching? Yes, everybody was absolutely rolling, and he played that part like to the T. He even like started social media.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say at one point he started a Twitter account for Mr. for Reverend, not Mr. Reverend Phil Roy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and I loved that. And I I wanted him to come back every year and do something with that. And he did for a while, but then he retired it. Remember he didn't want to be a good one.

SPEAKER_00

He did retire it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, but another thing that I was gonna mention that was started was uh the superheroes.

SPEAKER_00

Greg Man and Jerry Boy.

SPEAKER_04

And then a plethora of other and eventually had Chris come into the mix, and he was just Chris. Just Chris. You had uh Gregman, Jerry Boy, and just Chris. And they did these skits, you know, of all these different adventures they went on, and those were hilarious too.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But I do miss those days of having the skits and having the talent shows.

SPEAKER_02

Sounds like it needs to come back. Man, the kids that the kids that them back those days though, when they were they were into it. We were into it.

SPEAKER_03

We were in we were into also kids nowadays will go live, they'll post on social media, they selfie to death, but if you put them in front of somebody on a stage, they're not, it ain't happening.

SPEAKER_02

No, they can't do it.

SPEAKER_04

They might do it though if they got used to it here. I think what was going on with the older kids from before is they were going home and they were thinking about it for the whole year. So when they came back, they had something ready to go.

SPEAKER_00

There were spots. There were a lot of times like when we were still doing them and still pretty imaginative with it. Several of us that would always hang out outside of camp, you know, we'd be at someone's house hanging out and be like, hey, what if we did this for the talent show this year? What if we put this in our skip? Camp would be, you know, this would be November or December. You know, camp's not until the end of July, and we're like, hey, we throw this in here. Like something would happen, like an inside joke would be like, hey, if we toss this in our skit for camp. And it's like, well, in another seven months, I guess we better remember that one. So and you're right. A lot of the kids these days, I don't think they they're really into doing stuff like that. I will I will be honest. I'm kind of I'm glad we don't do them anymore. I got very burnt out. Well, just taking a lot of your time. Yeah, I think that's what happens. People started getting burnout on them, but there was burnout, and plus the kids started because you would have to practice during your recreation time. A lot of the kids were like, well, I want to go do recreation, I want to go play basketball, or I want to fish, or I want to do this. And now I'm having to. A lot of them felt forced to be participants in this.

SPEAKER_03

That's understandable too. I think this year is like a record year for kids fishing today already. There was. I mean, that pond was full.

SPEAKER_00

Before then.

SPEAKER_04

Are there any fish in that pond, Chris? That's a great.

SPEAKER_00

You know what, Chris? I want to challenge you on that.

SPEAKER_04

I've always wondered.

SPEAKER_00

Just because I've had five kids today tell me that y'all don't stock that pond with anything.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let me tell you, we stopped 300 pounds. I was gonna say one kid pulled a catfish out down there. We stopped 300 pounds of catfish last year.

SPEAKER_00

I guess I guess my guys are just these fishermen. Use no bugfish. They need to bring some.

SPEAKER_02

They just don't know how to fish.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe a class on that.

SPEAKER_02

They need some bread. My boy catches them on bread all the time. Well, I wasn't telling.

SPEAKER_04

I was told they were fishing with rubber worms and bobbers. So they're probably not gonna catch it. They're not gonna catch them. You gotta have bread.

SPEAKER_00

Not in catfish on that, nothing. Who was it? Was it Jake? Speaking of Jake and fishing, that walked into the pond to try to get a fish a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_00

Come out mud up to his knees, and oh yeah. He was not letting that one go.

SPEAKER_04

Good times.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of good memories here, Dan. That's why I keep coming back.

SPEAKER_04

You skipped a few years there, I remember. And you know, it's funny because those years you skipped, your brother was here. It's like you hate each other or something. Also, those are. If you're here, he won't come, and if he's here, you won't come.

SPEAKER_00

Now he he was actually he was a camper here longer than I was. Was he? And the first few years after he graduated when we were counselors together, yeah, he would he would have probably had me about six or seven years.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I I know people get they grow up and they get jobs and they get married and have families, and you know, it's hard to come back. You know, I understand where some of these people went. Uh I've also remembered one other thing that if if y'all have noticed I cut out people doing specials during the service because I had one girl that sang every year the exact same song. Yes, and before she would sing it, she would yell, This is for you, Tamika. Happy birthday. Yes, every single year the exact same song. And every year I I felt for it. I thought she'd sing something new. No, nothing new. Tamika really liked the song. She must have. And it was her birthday. It was her birthday. You know, and I had both of those girls in class.

SPEAKER_00

I think for the betterment of service, we've also cut down on uh special uh people coming up and doing special testimonies because we've had a couple of those in the past kind of go off the rails. The boy you're thinking about the boy that I'm thinking of that mentioned wrestling, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Do you not remember that?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like he was talking about some stuff, and I was just looking around going, do we need to stop this? Like, the director of missions is here, most of the camp committee's here. Why we need to cut his mic?

SPEAKER_02

Talking about wrestling. Saved his life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. What about the one that uh started out really good, the testimony? You know, he was born early, and then all of a sudden he's talking about World War II. Remember that? Oh my gosh, I do remember that. That was two summers ago. And man, uh he told a whole story about a battle of World War II. We're just like and him 20 years old. And our director of missions at that time pretty much had to go up there and be like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to just hand somebody a mic. It is.

SPEAKER_04

Actually, what you ought to do is stand beside them and hold the mic for them. That's the best thing. But uh, that reminded me of, I don't know if you all remember this or not. It's been a long time ago, but it was in this building in the basement when the lady came up at the end during ultra call and pulled out one of those, and I don't even know what they're called, but they're like those animal horns. And she wanted to come up and blow the horn. You know that's what I think. What are they called? Did anybody know? No. I'm a music teacher and I don't know. Whatever it is they would have used, like in Jewish culture, or you know, over in Israel at the time, or whatever, she had one of those in her bag. And she came up and she asked. You know, the whole time she's like, Finally, my moment. She asked Greg. I've been waiting for this. And blow the horn, the sheep's horn, or whatever it was. He did tell her no on that one because he he had no idea who she was or where she came from. How crazy she was. Yeah, we didn't either. So that's that's one of the funniest things that sticks out to me. It's that woman bringing that horn on to blow it.

SPEAKER_00

She was ready to lead us in the bathroom. Yeah. Like, I don't, she had just come down for that service, didn't she? She wasn't even here all week. Right, she came up to the night. She didn't know everybody. Didn't know anybody just came down for the service.

SPEAKER_04

It wasn't family night, it was just a normal worship night. And she wanted to blow that horn. I I'm like, what in the world is she talking about up there? Now that may be, you know, maybe other religions or something do something like that. You know, we've like I said, our band travel around and we've played at churches of other denominations, and we've had flags waved in our faces, like the marching band flags.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

People doing those, and we've had people flopping around in the floors. Uh so you know, I've seen a lot of stuff, but that's the only time I've ever seen people walk cues and everything like across the top. That's the only time I've ever seen a ram's horn come out. Yeah, that wasn't even all me. Well, we're at about a little over an hour. Does anybody want to tell anything else or do you want to wrap it up?

SPEAKER_00

Just uh anybody that's listening to this that's in the area, send your kids. Send your kids down here. They'll be blessed, you'll be blessed.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we're in the London Corbin area of Kentucky. Um I think we've mentioned that before, but um like I said, if you want to send a check to the camp, you want to tell that address one more time?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's 578 Singing Hills Road, Corbin, Kentucky, 40701.

SPEAKER_00

LLBC on the checks. That's right. L L B Call Lake Bad Decamp.

SPEAKER_03

We're either making out the cash and send them to my address, which is I'll make sure they get it.

SPEAKER_04

I know that uh we do have some listeners that listen to all this. Sorry about the bad sound, but we're in a room that echoes like nothing else. It's camp.

SPEAKER_03

And it's and there's a herd of buffaloes just went by.

SPEAKER_04

A herd of buffaloes called uh third and fourth, all the way through seventh and eighth graders just went by. But uh this has been the drummer station. Kicking the dog.